25 Aug 2006 01:30    Post subject: [Note]  Good 'ol Yarns From the Int Base! #3  	Reply with quote

I was told that this part of the MB is where most of you go, so issue #3 will start here.

With all the great news right now about TC and that sword of karma,
I'm still going to submit my tales from Int as I feel that the more
truth that gets out there, the more the beast of $cn will fail and
fall. It's like watching an old building go down after being a public
eyesore for years. The neighborhood is cheering! Let's build a beautiful park
where it used to stand.

So, in light of all this, here's more wood for the fire. There's an LRH FO called OVERBOARD.
It was issued during the Apollo days as a punishment for downstats. I don't remember it verbatim,
but I'll convey the main idea. Maybe someone has a copy they can link us to or something.

LRH ordered that downstats be thrown overboard the Apollo. And depending on the offense and the
number of times you've already been pushed over the side, the first time you were just pushed over,
the next you were blindfolded, the next you were blinded and hands tied, and the next you were
blinded, hands tied and feet tied. It actually says this in the FO!

You would think that this punishment wasn't used anymore accept for maybe on the Freewinds - but
that would be way too out-PR for the public on the ship, so is probably not practised there. Well,
guess what? It's still being done!

Yes, my friends, at the good ol' Int Base. There is a lake at the base with a bridge going over to
a little island. Not only are downstat individuals pushed into the lake, but sometimes entire
divisions! In the winter time that lake is freezing. I also
heard from several crew that one time, an older crew member, I think it was Penny Mace the
Qual Staff Supervisor got pushed in and the lake was so cold she froze up and couldn't swim.
Someone had to jump in and save her or she would have drowned.

There were a number of divisions being thrown into the lake on a regular basis - Div 2 for having
down GI for Gold and Qual.

At the base, the parts of the FO with blindfolding and the bounding weren't applied, but the freezing
water and the ambarassment with having to walk across the base, dripping wet and freezing - uniform
and all was enough of a jolt - torture. Oh, you were allowed to take off your watch and shoes though.

This is akin to walking the plank guys. A pirate punishment.

I think Tom should be thrown in the lake now don't you think Davey?

There you go guys.

Hammering out of existence incorrect technology would include $cientology itself! 

One more thing on this. The lake that we were being overboarded into at Int was so unsanitary, that people were starting to get sick from the overboarding. Little Davey had to figure out another way to do this. So, instead of throwing people in the lake, he decided that the swimming pool on the ship (clipper ship at Gold) would be the spot. One night at like 4 am, he had the entirety of CMO Int overboarded into the swimming pool because of some flap. They went in, uniform, pajamas and all and were then told to get to work. Messed up huh?


Thanks for your enlightening stories, BTs2FREE.

Here is a section from "A Piece of Blue Sky" by John Atack which describes other forms of LRH punishment at sea:

In 1968, Hubbard's Ethics was put into action with the chain-locker punishment. A chain-locker is "a dark hole where the anchor chains are stored; cold, wet and rats," to quote one ex-Sea Org officer. The lockers are below the steering in the bowels of the ship. A tiny manhole gives access, and they are unlit. When a crew member was in a low enough Ethics Condition, he or she would be put in a chainlocker for up to two weeks.

John McMaster says a small child, perhaps five years old, was once consigned to a chain-locker. He says she was a deaf mute, and that Hubbard had assigned her an Ethics condition for which the formula is "Find out who you really are." She was not to leave the chain locker until she completed the formula by writing her name. McMaster says Hubbard came to him late one night in some distress, and asked him to let the child out. He did, cursing Hubbard the while. Another witness claims that a three-year-old was once put in the locker.

Another Ethics Condition had the miscreant put into "old rusty tanks, way below the ship, with filthy bilge water, no air, and hardly sitting height... for anything from twenty-four hours to a week... getting their oxygen via tubes, and with Masters-at-Arms [Ethics Officers] checking outside to hear if the hammering continued. Food was occasionally given in buckets," according to a former Sea Org executive.

The miscreants were kept awake, often for days on end. They ate from the communal food bucket with their blistered and filthy hands. They chipped away at the rust unceasingly. As another witness has tactfully put it, "there were no bathroom facilities." While these "penances" were being doled out, the first "overboard" occurred. The ships were docked in Melilla, Morocco, in May 1968. One of the ship's executives was ashore and noticed that the hawsers holding the Scotman and the Avon River were crossed. He undid a hawser, and found himself grappling with the full mass of an unrestrained ship as it drifted away from the dock.

Mary Sue Hubbard ordered that the officer be hurled from the deck. There was a tremendous crash as he hit the water. Ships have a "rubbing strake" beneath the waterline to keep other ships at bay in a collision. The overboarded officer had hit the steel rubbing strake! The crew peered anxiously over the side waiting for the corpse to float to the surface.

The bedraggled officer was surprised when he walked up the gangplank and found the crew still craning over the far side of the ship. Fortunately for Mrs. Hubbard's conscience, and the failing public repute of Scientology, the officer concerned was not only a good swimmer, but also expert at Judo. Most fortunate of all, he had seen the rubbing strake, and the explosive crash was caused when he thrust himself away as he fell. For a short time, overboarding was abandoned.

It is difficult to comprehend the stoicism with which some Scientologists suffered the Ethics Conditions. It is remarkable even to many ex-Scientologists. It is even more remarkable that most Scientologists have probably never heard of the chain-locker, bilge tank or overboarding punishments. Scientologists were used to Hubbard's auditing techniques, where they did not question the reasoning behind a set of commands, but simply answered or carried them out. Many spent their time trying to keep out of trouble, or, when trouble unavoidably came, getting out of the Ethics Condition quickly by whatever means they could.
Here's another part from a different chapter of "A Piece of Blue Sky."

Scientologists who joined after 1970 are often unaware that overboarding took place. Most who have heard of it, and those who were subjected to it, dismiss it as a passing phase; unpleasant, but no longer significant. People who experienced it often shrug it off, and even insist that it was "research." It can take persistence to extract an admission of the reality of overboarding. Students and crew were lined up on deck in the early hours every morning. They waited to hear whether they were on the day's list of miscreants. Those who knew they were would remove their shoes, jackets and wristwatches in anticipation. The drop was between fifteen and forty feet, depending upon which deck was used. Sometimes people were blindfolded first, and either their feet or hands loosely tied. Non-swimmers were tied to a rope. Being hurled such a distance, blindfolded and restrained, into cold sea water, must have been terrifying. Worst of all was the fear that you would hit the side of the ship as you fell, your flesh ripped open by the barnacles. Overboarding was a very traumatic experience.


Alex Mitchell of the London Sunday Times reported that a woman with two children had run screaming from the ship, only to be rounded up and returned by her fellow Scientologists. The journalist also said that eight-year-old children were being overboarded.


The Church was going to become a moderate and liberal organization, which would continue its battle against the evils of psychiatry (spokesmen are trained to attack psychiatry as a response to any criticism of Scientology). Thirty-eight libel suits were dropped. And while the press and governments were being assured of this new liberal attitude, the new Class VIIIs were returning to their Orgs and instituting their own forms of overboarding. 23

In the Edinburgh Advanced Org, the miscreant was thrown into a bath of hot, cold or dirty water. In Los Angeles, he or she would be hosed down fully clothed in the parking lot, though later a large water tank was used. John McMaster has said that in Hawaii the offender's head would be pushed into a toilet bowl, and the toilet flushed. The same technique was used in Copenhagen.


Overboarding is a practice that still goes on at the Int Base.

Question to David Miscavige, can you please explain why this practice is okay?